The Fascia Guide

12. How seeing the living body changes everything we thought we knew – with Jean-Claude Guimberteau, MD

The episode was first published on the Swedish podcast Fasciaguiden on May 26, 2025.
In this episode, we meet the French surgeon Jean-Claude Guimberteau, who has spent more than 30 years filming the living body. What did he discover when he first realized that reality didn’t match what the textbooks described? And why do his discoveries have the potential to revolutionize our entire understanding of the human body?
Through Jean-Claude Guimberteau’s personal journey, we are taken into a fascinating world where cells move, threads connect, and colors pulse. It’s like watching a film in which the main character suddenly realizes that everything he’s learned is a simplification of a far more complex and living reality. What does it mean for us when we begin to understand that the body is not static but in constant transformation?
The interview gives us a unique perspective on how the living body’s reality differs from traditional anatomical models—and how this new understanding could change the way we think about health, disease, and healing. Is it time to let go of the old models and start seeing the body as it truly is?
Participants in this episode are Axel Bohlin, Hans Bohlin, and Jean-Claude Guimberteau.

11. How can we understand Fascia & our bodies in a simple way? Special guest Sue Adstrum, PhD

Fascia research in all its glory, but how do you present it so that ordinary people understand it, gets excited and start realizing the potential benefits of understanding how the body works?
Together with Sue Adstrum, PhD-qualified anatomist & author of the Living Wetsuit, we discuss how Fascia as a subject could help us bridge the gap between research, practical application and how it relates to ordinary people and everyday life.

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10. What happens when people discover Fascia?

What happens when you discover that things are not as you thought?
Fascia and the living body starts as a fascinating subject, new research, a new organ and new insights. But how does it affect you when you then realize that it goes much deeper, that it is a fundamental change in how you understand wholeness and separation, relations and flow.
The realization that we in fact know so very little about the LIVING body is very humbling.
At the same time, the fact that it is crucial to understand YOUR own body, and that factors like your own experiences, thoughts and feelings are important, makes it empowering.
What would happen if people in general become more humble AND more empowered?
The Fascia Guide is a podcast about the living body, about new research and a new perspective on health, pain and what it means to be alive. In this episode you will hear Hans Bohlin, innovator and fascia expert, Per Johansson, doctor of human ecology and historian of science and ideas, and Axel Bohlin, founder & editor of The Fascia Guide.

09. What does it take to understand Fascia & the living body?

For many researchers, health professionals and people in general the understanding of what Fascia is and how it works has completely challenged the whole way we understand the body and what it means to be alive.
So... where does that put us? How do we start understanding the living body? What does it take in terms of skills, perspective, ways of thinking and doing.
What does it even mean that Fascia is a new paradigm, a new perspective?
How do we learn anything for that matter?
 
The Fascia Guide is a podcast about the living body, about new research and a new perspective on health, pain and what it means to be alive. In this episode you will hear Hans Bohlin, innovator and fascia expert, Per Johansson, doctor of human ecology and historian of science and ideas, and Axel Bohlin, founder & editor of The Fascia Guide.

08. What is knowledge about the body in a simple way

The purpose of The Fascia Guide is to give people knowledge about the body in a simple way.
What does that mean exactly? What is knowledge and where is knowledge? How do we understand all the complexity that is the living body in a simple way?
What does it even mean to know something?
The Fascia Guide is a podcast about the living body, about new research and a new perspective on health, pain and what it means to be alive. In this episode you will hear Hans Bohlin, innovator and fascia expert, Per Johansson, doctor of human ecology and historian of science and ideas, and Axel Bohlin, founder & editor of The Fascia Guide.

07. What is flow

Fascia as a flow is a new way of understanding the body and explaining the body’s function.
All that lives has a flow. Each living cell or organism has a flow of water, energies, particles, molecules, light, sound, vibrations, etc.
Each living cell has a metabolism which requires a flow into the cell, a flow within the cell and a flow out of the cell. This applies to unicellular as well as multicellular organisms, animals, plants, fungi, protists or bacteria.
Flow is essential, it is life - and somehow, flow is also something we find terribly hard to understand.
The Fascia Guide is a podcast about the living body, about new research and a new perspective on health, pain and what it means to be alive. In this episode you will hear Hans Bohlin, innovator and fascia expert, Per Johansson, doctor of human ecology and historian of science and ideas, and Axel Bohlin, founder & editor of The Fascia Guide.

06. Why is it so hard for Fascia to become mainstream?

What happens when you discover something that makes you rethink everything you knew? Fascia research forces as to look at the whole and not just the parts, and in some ways we need to start from scratch. That in itself is challenging, but it is even worse when videos of the living body like "Strolling under the skin" shows how an organized chaos.
Is there a place for fascia in a culture obsessed with order and control?
The Fascia Guide is a podcast about the living body, about new research and a new perspective on health, pain and what it means to be alive. In this episode you will hear Hans Bohlin, innovator and fascia expert, Per Johansson, doctor of human ecology and historian of science and ideas, and Axel Bohlin, founder & editor of The Fascia Guide.

05. Why are we thinking about the body the way we do?

A living body is not the same thing as a dead body… but we pretend they are when we study anatomy.
Our entire understanding of the body is based on studies of dead bodies, dissected bodies, and bodies treated as objects.
But is your body really an object? Is the body something you have or is it in fact something you are?
Why are we thinking like this - and have we always been thinking like this?
The Fascia Guide is a podcast about the living body, about new research and a new perspective on health, pain and what it means to be alive. In this episode you will hear Hans Bohlin, innovator and fascia expert, Per Johansson, doctor of human ecology and historian of science and ideas, and Axel Bohlin, founder & editor of The Fascia Guide.

04. Why is Fascia not mainstream?

Fascia research has sparked a wildfire of new insights that are challenging conventional belief about how the living body works.
In the last 15-20 years thousands of high quality research articles have been published by renowned researchers, from high ranking institutions.
Practical applications of this research indicates promising future solutions to a vast number of common health issues
Still, very few people know what fascia is, especially if you compare it with other new research fields like the microbiome, which is much more well known
Is it something about the subject itself that is hard for us to understand?
Why is Fascia not mainstream?
The Fascia Guide is a podcast about the living body, about new research and a new perspective on health, pain and what it means to be alive. In this episode you will hear Hans Bohlin, innovator and fascia expert, Per Johansson, doctor of human ecology and historian of science and ideas, and Axel Bohlin, founder & editor of The Fascia Guide.